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The Dynamic range of the D 7000 (from a Fuji S5 user)

Postby H Smith » Sun 3 Apr 2011 21:33

I published an article, with photos, illustrating the surrisng dynmic range of the new Nikon D 7000.
Here's a link: http://henrysmithscottage.wordpress.com/2011/04/03/d-7000-dynamic-range/
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Re: The Dynamic range of the D 7000 (from a Fuji S5 user)

Postby H Smith » Wed 6 Apr 2011 02:22

Apparently, no interest.
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Re: The Dynamic range of the D 7000 (from a Fuji S5 user)

Postby Stany Buyle » Wed 6 Apr 2011 09:10

H Smith wrote:Apparently, no interest.

Oh yes, there is for sure. Your original message has read approx 20 times after 48 hours and as I found it interesting I made a link to your article in a thread of mine that has been read over 1300 times.
I think If you would have posted the original contents directly in this thread rather than a link you could have more direct questions or reactions.
Thanks anyhow, to me it was an interesting read and an interesting complement to all the good things that I read already about D7000. Upto that it will be a thread mentioned in the next newsletter.
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Re: The Dynamic range of the D 7000 (from a Fuji S5 user)

Postby ADeVos » Wed 6 Apr 2011 19:58

Hi. Read your article. Thanks.
A question:
There was an article about D7000 on this board -"an iso less camera"- explaining that you can underexpose 1-2 stops in order to achieve a faster shutter and get the image back in postprocessing without noticable more noise.
Did you test that?
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Re: The Dynamic range of the D 7000 (from a Fuji S5 user)

Postby H Smith » Thu 7 Apr 2011 01:19

I did and I didn't. I noticed early on that in wide dynamic range or low light situations you could underexpose as a strategy, and pull up the midtones with little problem. The pictures in the article were exposed not only to preserve highlights, but to facilitate shooting with a monopod( to avoid shake).
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Re: The Dynamic range of the D 7000 (from a Fuji S5 user)

Postby H Smith » Thu 7 Apr 2011 01:21

Oh yes, there is for sure. Your original message has read approx 20 times after 48 hours and as I found it interesting I made a link to your article in a thread of mine that has been read over 1300 times.

So I was having a bad day...
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Re: The Dynamic range of the D 7000 (from a Fuji S5 user)

Postby James » Fri 8 Apr 2011 10:41

HI Henry,

welcome to the forum!

I read your article, but hadn't responded, sorry.

I appreciate you taking the time to test that but I am a little bit surprised by your findings. I have always found that Nikons were very good at dealing with Shadow noise, and sometimes with motorsports shots on my D200 I would underexpose and lift in post. I even had riders as silhouttes that seemed to have full detail and colour information when I lifted the shadows later.

The reason that I am surprised is that the S5 had a very different dynamic range profile. What would happen there is that the shadows would either block up or get noisier slightly earlier but there was masses of information in the highlights and they sort of drifted off rather than blowing out so it was safer to overexpose than underxpose.

I also use a Sony A900 and this gets shadow noise first too but retains a lot more highlight information that I expected (Nikon's generally use the Sony sensors so I thought that the characteristics would be similar).

I've not used the D7000 but I did pick up a D700 recently and it seems to go both ways which is great. From your article I can't see if that's the case with the D7000, what I can see is that they are as good (or probably better and I am using rose coloured spectacles) as my D200 was at retaining detail in shadows I would really like to see how it handles highlights though!

Thanks again for sharing your results so far and I look forward to seeing more of your posts soon.
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Re: The Dynamic range of the D 7000 (from a Fuji S5 user)

Postby H Smith » Fri 8 Apr 2011 12:35

I also have a D700 and agree that there is more latitiude on the right side of the histogram with that sensor. I didn't do a comparison, but feel fairly sure that the snow in front of the doorway in several of the images, might have been "pulled back" more easily with a D700 ( and certainly with my Fuji S5).
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Re: The Dynamic range of the D 7000 (from a Fuji S5 user)

Postby James » Fri 8 Apr 2011 13:45

H Smith wrote:I also have a D700 and agree that there is more latitiude on the right side of the histogram with that sensor. I didn't do a comparison, but feel fairly sure that the snow in front of the doorway in several of the images, might have been "pulled back" more easily with a D700 ( and certainly with my Fuji S5).


Thanks for the extra information Henry :)

Completely off topic, but... How do you find your $60 Epson printer? Would you have bought at it full price and how does it compare to your 3800 (Other than media size)
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Re: The Dynamic range of the D 7000 (from a Fuji S5 user)

Postby Leen Koper » Fri 8 Apr 2011 21:52

Could this, in your opinion, conclusion be about right for these cameras when shooting RAW?
S5 + 1,5
D7000 - 1.5 and
D700 no correction
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Re: The Dynamic range of the D 7000 (from a Fuji S5 user)

Postby H Smith » Sat 9 Apr 2011 04:55

Are you asking about my R1900?
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Re: The Dynamic range of the D 7000 (from a Fuji S5 user)

Postby Leen Koper » Sat 9 Apr 2011 07:51

No, about a starting point for an ISO setting on the cameras in RAW
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D700 vs S5pro vs D7000 DR...

Postby Stany Buyle » Sat 9 Apr 2011 09:34

Next to some other cams I basically went from S5pro to D3 and later to D700(same sensor). I find the possibilities in recovering shadow detail with D700 much better than with S5pro but about highlights recovery S5pro maintains unbeaten I guess. With S5pro's 400% DR setting the images looked extremeley flat though... I remember a converstaion with Dirk Vermeirre who claimed that while setting contrast low you can get similar results (highlights preserved) with other cameras.. (Dirk only liked his S5pro for iso 100.)
About shadow detail recovery and while D7000 apparently doesn't exhibit read noise(D7000, an iso-less camera...), I can imagine that D7000 is very probably even better about shadow recovery at low iso (100-400 range) than D700.
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Reminder to related topic.

Postby Stany Buyle » Sat 9 Apr 2011 09:48

This message as a reminder to a related topic:

D700 compared to Fuji S5, by Leen Koper
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Re: The Dynamic range of the D 7000 (from a Fuji S5 user)

Postby Geoff_Roughton » Sun 10 Apr 2011 09:00

The D7000 and the K5 have very good DR.....I'm not sure about the iso-less camera yet from digital though. The D7000 can handle under exposure to a wider degree than most but doesnt handle highlights any better......
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Re: The Dynamic range of the D 7000 (from a Fuji S5 user)

Postby H Smith » Sun 10 Apr 2011 15:47

I never answered James question about the Epson 1900.
Actually theirs not a big difference between the 1800 aand the 1900. Both do stunning gloss prints. Skintones are supposed to be better on the new one but so far I've printed mainly landscapes, so I'm not sure.
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Re: The Dynamic range of the D 7000 (from a Fuji S5 user)

Postby James » Mon 11 Apr 2011 09:50

Thanks Henry
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Re: The Dynamic range of the D 7000 (from a Fuji S5 user)

Postby H Smith » Sun 24 Apr 2011 04:01

My Pleasure. As I use the R 1900 I may do a review.
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