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Iliah Borg wrote: OK, let's do something towards it
Please upload some 14-bit FX mode uncompressed Nikon D810 files, any subject matter. It would be useful to have a black frame (viewfinder covered, ISO 64, lens stopped down to f/22 or more, 1/8000 sec shutter speed, lens cap on, better if taken in dark, too); and a shot with some highlights blown out in raw.
That would help Mr. Miguel Bañón to start.
But no promises at this stage of course.
http://www.libraw.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

StanyB wrote: OK, Here we go...
Dear Iliah,
Thanks a lot already for starting. I appreciate this very much.
Underneath a collage of some shots I just made. I hope they forfill your requirements.

For the blackframe I added the exif. Blackframe was taken in total dark.

Related nefs are uploading to my server right now.
http://www.myphotogallery.name/D810nefs ... C_1250.NEF" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.myphotogallery.name/D810nefs ... C_1252.NEF" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.myphotogallery.name/D810nefs ... C_1256.NEF" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.myphotogallery.name/D810nefs ... C_1259.NEF" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.myphotogallery.name/D810nefs ... C_1260.NEF" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.myphotogallery.name/D810nefs ... C_1261.NEF" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Kindest regards,
Stany

Re: OK, Here we go...
In reply to nikonuserinfo, 1 week ago
Hi folks, Thanks for the NEF files, I'll play with them this weekend and let you know.
Regards, blog.bagnon.com

• •The converted files only work in Nikon Capture NX 2.4 .6, not in NC 2.4.7 !
  When I tried to open them in Capture NX2.4.6 I got this:
  
  
  You can syill download Nikon Capture NX2.4.6 on the Nikon support page of your country.
  On Nikon UK you can download Nikon Capture NX2.4.6 full version here.
• The converter only works with pictures shot in nef uncompressed 14 bit, but works perfect. Even picture control settings stay when you open the converted file.
  I tried to open several formats at once in Nikon Capture NX2.4.6 and only the ones in uncompressed 14 bit NEF format open correctly.
  
  
  
  ...but it works perfect:
• Picture controls keep intact...
  
  
• ... and you can open and modify picture control settings when you open the converted file.
  
  
• And last but not least: the original file and the converted file are indistinguishable as I see them in NikonView 2.10, also at 100% view
  
  
  Also upload information shows that file size is identical:
  
  
  You can download the Original NEF nad the converted NEF and compare the 2 yourself:
  
  • The Original file: http://www.myphotogallery.name/D810nefs ... C_1253.NEF
  • And the file converted with Miguel Bagnon's rawtoNEF converter: http://www.myphotogallery.name/D810nefs ... C_1253.NEF

THANK YOU Mr. Bañón

Iliah Borg wrote: OK, let's do something towards it
Please upload some 14-bit FX mode uncompressed Nikon D810 files, any subject matter. It would be useful to have a black frame (viewfinder covered, ISO 64, lens stopped down to f/22 or more, 1/8000 sec shutter speed, lens cap on, better if taken in dark, too); and a shot with some highlights blown out in raw.
That would help Mr. Miguel Bañón to start.
But no promises at this stage of course.
http://www.libraw.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

• Is it possible to explain a little bit why you need which type of file? Most intrigued I am by the darkframe and its specifications (a black frame (viewfinder covered, ISO 64, lens stopped down to f/22 or more, 1/8000 sec shutter speed, lens cap on, better if taken in dark, too ).
• Also I would like to know if you use Iliah Borg's libraw to create your tool.

Hello Stany,
1. - Supported formats: I plan to cover lossless compression, initially 14bits, and let's see how far we get.

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2. - Files required to test a new camera/format: you normally want to see a regular picture, but then both extremes, highlights and shadows, that's why Iliah asked for that. Some arithmetic may go well in mid tones, but mistakes can easily get noticed in those high and low pixel value extremes.

3. - RAW2NEF is written in tcl/tk, with the more cpu demanding tasks in C. It is a few years old, and it was initially developed to allow me to edit Leica DNG files with CNX2. The information that I used at that time was the DNG/TIFF and NEF specs, the first two are publicly available, and the NEF format can be obtained from Nikon. Some routines dealing with white balance and Sony ARW decoding were written in tcl mirroring code from dcraw and the exiftool in perl, which are also freely available. Iliah has always been very helpful and generous with his time and knowledge, specially when I added support to the Sony A7r, and now again for the D810. We are very lucky to count with this level of support from so many people volunteering to help so we can have some extra freedom beyond the camera vendors plans and restrictions.
Regards,MIguel.

Van: stanyxxxxxxxxx Aan: Miguel xxxxxxxx Onderwerp: Re: FW: New beta of raw2nef xxxxxxxxx
Hi Miguel!
What’s new in your RAW2NEF development, any progress with compressed D810 files?

Van: stanyxxxxxxxxx Aan: Miguel xxxxxxxx Onderwerp: Re: FW: New beta of raw2nef xxxxxxxxx
o Is it possible to make my own template as I want the basic settings?

• On Nikon USA: https://support.nikonusa.com/app/answer ... e-nx-2.4.6
• On Nikon UK: Capture NX 2.4.6 Full Version
• On Nikon BE- (Nederlands) : Capture NX 2.4.6 volledige versie
• More language versions of Nikon Capture NX2.4.6 on Nikon Global.

Hi Stany
I'm a fellow D810 user and Raw2nef fan.
One issue that I've noticed with Raw2nef though is that the thumbnails of the converted nef files were displaying as a cropped 16x9 version of the true image when viewed in Adobe Bridge. Out of curiosity I opened the D810 template file in Adobe Camera Raw and was interested to see that it was also in that cropped format, with the image size measuring 6720x3776 pixels. So then I opened one of my own D810 files in Camera Raw and it displayed the true dimensions of 7360x4912 pixels. I think you provided the template files to Miguel? Was this image dimension intentional for some reason? Do you think this is why the thumbnail files display as cropped? I sent this question to Miguel a few days ago but so far no reply from him.
Cheers, Michael

ReaderQuestion wrote:Hi Stany
I'm a fellow D810 user and Raw2nef fan.
One issue that I've noticed with Raw2nef though is that the thumbnails of the converted nef files were displaying as a cropped 16x9 version of the true image when viewed in Adobe Bridge. Out of curiosity I opened the D810 template file in Adobe Camera Raw and was interested to see that it was also in that cropped format, with the image size measuring 6720x3776 pixels. So then I opened one of my own D810 files in Camera Raw and it displayed the true dimensions of 7360x4912 pixels. I think you provided the template files to Miguel? Was this image dimension intentional for some reason? Do you think this is why the thumbnail files display as cropped? I sent this question to Miguel a few days ago but so far no reply from him.
Cheers, Michael

• We were communicating about Adobe RAW modifying the RAW2NEF file image dimension size, is this problem solved?
• For which versions of PS does RAW2NEF works?

You may want to update Raw2Nef to the just released version 3.5.
This adds support for the NIKON D7200 camera, and fixes an issue that precluded converting protected files.

Good afternoon Miguel,

A question about templates in your conversion program:

The templates you provide do not show ADL setting, or do I miss something?

Thanks in advance for your time to read/answer my question.

Kindest regards,

Stany
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Dear Stany,

As far as I have been able to understand it, ADL does not modify the raw data, but includes an image-specific layer mask, and then applies exposure correction applying that mask. The same can perfectly be done in postprocessing.

Given that the layer mask is stored in undocumented format in proprietary NEF fields, I do not transfer that to the converted files. And the template has ADL set to off.

Best regards,
Miguel Bañón

Good morning Miguel,

OK. Thanks for your answer.

• I understand but I find -after U-point tech of course- ADL one of the reasons to keep going with Capture NX2, next to picture styles. It saves tons of time.
Otherwise you could do everything in PP and simply switch to Adobe…
• Can I make my own templates with ADL swtiched on for D810, D750 and D7200? (Lens cap on, 1/1600 sec, or what?)

Kindest regards,
Stany

• Nikon Asia Capture NX2.4.6 download.
• On Nikon UK: Capture NX 2.4.6 Full Version
• On Nikon BE- (Nederlands) : Capture NX 2.4.6 volledige versie
• More language versions of Nikon Capture NX2.4.6 on Nikon Global.